Photo courtesy of Nathan Schwartz-Salant.

Update, Dec. 19, 2020: Dr. Schwartz-Salant passed away in September 2020. In Memory of Nathan Schwartz-Salant is a YouTube video featuring commentary by Speaking of Jung guests Murray Stein and Monika Wikman, along with Jungian analysts John Beebe, Joe Cambray and Linda Carter.

Nathan Schwartz-Salant has a Ph.D. in Engineering Science from the University of California, Berkeley, and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich.

He is a member of the International Association for Analytical Psychology {IAAP} and has been practicing as a Jungian analyst for almost fifty years. Dr. Schwartz-Salant is currently in private practice in Blue Hill, Maine.

His first book, Narcissism and Character Transformation: The Psychology of Narcissistic Character Disorders, published by Inner City Books in 1982, is a classic in the Jungian field.

He is the author of The Mystery of Human Relationship: Alchemy & the Transformation of the Self, The Borderline Personality: Vision & Healing, and The Black Nightgown: The Fusional Complex & the Unlived Life. He is also the editor of the book, Jung on Alchemy.

Dr. Schwartz-Salant was a co-founder – along with fellow Jungian analyst Murray Stein – of Chiron Publications, and co-edited a number of volumes in the Chiron Clinical Series.

Recently, he contributed the chapter “Healthy Presidential Narcissism: Is That Possible?” for the popular book, A Clear and Present Danger: Narcissism in the Era of President Trump [revised edition], that came out during the 2016 presidential campaign.

His latest book, published in April, is The Order-Disorder Paradox: Understanding the Hidden Side of Change in Self and Society, and it is the subject of our talk today.

This interview was recorded on June 29, 2017. It’s 55 minutes long and the MP3 file is 48.6 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser or download it directly to your computer. This episode is also available on iTunes, Stitcher, and Google Play.