Speaking of Jung is a unique podcast created and hosted by Laura London in Chicago. It explores the life and work of C.G. Jung through in-depth discussions with certified Jungian analysts.

Below, you’ll find a complete list of episodes that can be played here in your browser or downloaded to your computer. They’re also available on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Play, TuneIn, Spotify, and iHeartRadio.

You can follow Laura on Twitter for daily updates and for quotes from whatever she’s currently reading, and on Facebook and Instagram for a more personal look. She also does an occasional live video on YouTube.

Coming Up

Melanie Starr Costello, Ph.D. ~ Nov. 13, 2019 ~ She will discuss mysticism as it pertains to Jung, and her book, Imagination, Illness, and Injury: Jungian Psychology and the Somatic Dimensions of Perception

Ann Casement ~ Dec. 2, 2019 ~ She will go through her upcoming Fay lecture, “Integrating Shadow: Authentic Being in the World,” that she’ll be delivering at the Jung Center Houston from Nov. 15-17, 2019

Boseop Lee ~ November 2019 ~ She will join us from Seoul, South Korea to discuss Jungian Psychology, the Korean culture, and all things BTS

A tribute episode on Daryl Sharp and Inner City Books

Daryl Sharp 1936-2019

It is with a very heavy heart 💔 that I share news of the passing of my friend and teacher, Jungian analyst Daryl Sharp of Inner City Books. He was the inspiration for this podcast and I was very honored to have him as my guest for Eps. 1 and 5. There is an obituary on the Inner City Books website, and the “autobiography,” Who Is Daryl Sharp?, that he shared with me in 2015 for the Speaking of Jung blog. The Globe and Mail has an obituary on Legacy.com where you can share a memory, and you can also post your thoughts and comments on Inner City Book’s blog, Jung at Heart.


Map of the Soul: Persona – Our Many Faces ~ The revised edition of this new book includes a transcription of Murray Stein’s appearance on Ep. 44 on Speaking of Jung. We discuss the lyrics of each track of BTS’s new album, Map of the Soul: Persona.

Jung Lovers: BTS Delve Into Psychology on Their Album, Map of The Soul ~ Apr. 19, 2019 ~ BBC News story by Mark Savage; includes mention of Murray Stein and Speaking of Jung

Episode 44: Murray Stein, Ph.D. ~ Apr. 14, 2019 ~ A Jungian interpretation of BTS’s new album, Map of the Soul: Persona

Episode 42: Murray Stein, Ph.D. ~ Mar. 25, 2019 ~ Jungian analyst Dr. Murray Stein joined us from Zürich to discuss his #1 Best Seller, Jung’s Map of the Soul, and its relation to the upcoming release, Map of the Soul: Persona, by the K-pop group BTS.


Episode 49: Jung’s Red Book for Our Time ~ Sept. 20, 2019 ~ Editors Murray Stein, Ph.D. and Thomas Arzt, Ph.D., publisher Steven Buser, M.D., and contributing author Lance S. Owens, M.D.

Episode 48: Dennis Merritt, Ph.D. ~ Aug. 19, 2019 ~ His 4-volume series, The Dairy Farmer’s Guide to the Universe, and how to use the I Ching

Episode 47: The Analyst and The Rabbi ~ Aug. 7, 2019 ~ Murray Stein, Ph.D. and Henry Abramovitch, Ph.D. on their new play about the meeting between C.G. Jung and Rabbi Leo Baeck

Episode 46: Margaret Klenck ~ Jul. 16, 2019 ~ Being Authentic: The Dance Between Persona and True Self

Episode 45: Kenneth James, Ph.D. ~ Jun. 26, 2019 ~ Analytical Psychology, Jungian analysis, and why Jung wrote about esoterica

Episode 44: Murray Stein, Ph.D. ~ Apr. 14, 2019 ~ A Jungian interpretation of BTS’s Map of the Soul: Persona

Episode 43: Lyn Cowan, Ph.D. ~ Apr. 2, 2019 ~ Masochism: A Jungian View, Tracking the White Rabbit: A Subversive View of Modern Culture, Portrait of The Blue Lady: The Character of Melancholy, Seabiscuit, and vocation

Episode 42: Murray Stein, Ph.D. ~ Mar. 25, 2019 ~ Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction

Episode 41: Robert Tyminski, D.M.H. ~ Feb. 20, 2019 ~ Male Alienation at the Crossroads of Identity, Culture & Cyberspace

Episode 40: Susan Schwartz, Ph.D. ~ Jan. 18, 2019 ~ Puella’s Shadow, and Narcissism & the ‘As If’ Personality

Episode 39: James Scherer, D.D.S. ~ Dec. 15, 2018 ~ Why is Jung important to our times?

Episode 38: David Schoen ~ Nov. 27, 2018 ~ Always a Fighting Tiger

Episode 37: Nora Swan-Foster ~ Jul. 24, 2018 ~ Jungian Art Therapy: A Guide to Dreams, Images, & Analytical Psychology

Episode 36: Mark Winborn, Ph.D. ~ Jul. 2, 2018 ~ Interpretation in Jungian Analysis: Art & Technique

Episode 35: J. Gary Sparks ~ Jun. 19, 2018 ~ Carl Jung & Arnold Toynbee: The Social Meaning of Inner Work, and An Introduction to Jung’s Red Book

Episode 34: Jan Bauer ~ May 14, 2018 ~ Money’s Mysteries, and Charisma: Its Light and Its Shadow

Episode 33: Pamela J. Power, Ph.D. ~ Apr. 19, 2018 ~ Distillation of Feeling in Traumatic Times; greed and stealing

Episode 32: James Hollis, Ph.D. ~ Mar. 21, 2018 ~ Living an Examined Life: Wisdom for the Second Half of the Journey

Episode 31: Stephen J. Foster, Ph.D. ~ Feb. 26, 2018 ~ Risky Business: A Jungian View of Environmental Disasters & the Nature Archetype; Tarot, synchronicity, complexes, and the difference between a psychologist and a Jungian analyst

Episode 30: Jerome S. Bernstein ~ Jan. 5, 2018 ~ Living in the Borderland: The Evolution of Consciousness and the Challenge of Healing Trauma, and Power & Politics: The Psychology of Soviet-American Partnership

Episode 29: Richard J. Sweeney, Ph.D. ~ Nov. 3, 2017 ~ Dreams & the Dynamics of Transformation

Episode 28: J. Gary Sparks ~ Sept. 27, 2017 ~ Valley of Diamonds: Adventures in Number & Time with Marie-Louise von Franz

Episode 27: James Hollis, Ph.D. ~ Aug. 16, 2017 ~ The Eden Project: In Search of the Magical Other – A Jungian Perspective on Relationship

Episode 26: Nathan Schwartz-Salant, Ph.D. ~ Jun. 30, 2017 ~ The Order-Disorder Paradox: Understanding the Hidden Side of Change in Self and Society

Episode 25: James Hollis, Ph.D. ~ May 17, 2017 ~ Why Good People Do Bad Things: Understanding Our Darker Selves

Episode 24: Monika Wikman, Ph.D. ~ Feb. 23, 2017 ~ Refining Your Inner Bullshit Detector; Pregnant Darkness: Alchemy & the Rebirth of Consciousness; “Sophia’s Dreaming Body: The Night Sky as Alchemical Mirror”

Episode 23: Justin Duerr ~ Nov. 17, 2016 ~ The Temple of Silence: Forgotten Works & Worlds of Herbert Crowley

Episode 22: Maria Helena Mandacarú Guerra ~ Sept. 29, 2016 ~ The Love Drama of C.G. Jung: As Revealed in His Life & in His Red Book

Episode 21: Jeffrey Kiehl, Ph.D. ~ Jul. 24, 2016 ~ A Jungian Perspective on Global Warming, and Facing Climate Change: An Integrated Path to the Future

Episode 20: Brockton Hill, J.D. ~ Jul. 11, 2016 ~ Psychological Astrology & Terrorism, and Edward Edinger’s book, Archetype of the Apocalypse: Divine Vengeance, Terrorism, & the End of the World

Episode 19: Lara Newton ~ Jun. 22, 2016 ~ Brothers & Sisters: Discovering the Psychology of Companionship, and what it takes to become a Jungian analyst

Episode 18: John Todd, Ph.D. ~ May 31, 2016 ~ Pacifica Graduate Institute, The Shadow of the Bat, and Batman v Superman

Episode 17: Thomas Patrick Lavin, Ph.D. ~ May 3, 2016 ~ The Trump Phenomena: C.G. Jung, Adolf Hitler, and Donald Trump

Episode 16: Russ Lockhart, Ph.D. ~ Apr. 16, 2016 ~ Psyche Speaks; Words as Eggs; Dreams, Bones & the Future; and his personal encounters with Hilde Kirsch, Suzanne Wagner, Gilles Quispel, Edward Edinger, James Hillman, M. Esther Harding, and Alice O. Howell

Episode 15: Graham Jackson ~ Apr. 1, 2016 ~ The Secret Lore of Gardening, The Living Room Mysteries, and the War on Eros

Episode 14: George Hogenson, Ph.D. ~ Mar. 14, 2016 ~ Jung’s Struggle with Freud

Episode 13: Deldon Anne McNeely, Ph.D. ~ Feb. 28, 2016 ~ Visions of Genius: Jung, Joyce & Lucia, and Becoming: Jung’s Concept of Individuation

Episode 12: Barbara Davies, Ph.D. ~ Feb. 4, 2016 ~ While in Zürich, Laura had the chance to sit down with Dr. Barbara Davies, who received her analytic training directly from Marie-Louise von Franz

Episode 11: Laura London ~ Jan. 16, 2016 ~ Shaun Lau stepped in as guest host to interview Laura about her trip to Zürich, Switzerland

Episode 10: Fred Gustafson, Ph.D. ~ Dec. 14, 2015 ~ The Black Madonna of Einsiedeln: An Ancient Image for Our Present Time

Episode 9: Murray Stein, Ph.D. ~ Dec. 6, 2015 ~ A Jungian approach to current world events, and an overview of the various Jungian training programs in Zürich

Episode 8: David Schoen ~ Nov. 11, 2015 ~ The War of the Gods in Addiction: C.G. Jung, Alcoholics Anonymous, & Archetypal Evil, and Divine Tempest: The Hurricane As a Psychic Phenomenon

Episode 7: Christina Becker ~ Nov. 3, 2015 ~ The Heart of the Matter: Individuation as an Ethical Process

Episode 6: Mark Winborn, Ph.D. ~ Oct. 29, 2015 ~ Jungian analysis contrasted with other psychoanalytic perspectives, as well as medications, treatment effectiveness, the therapeutic relationship, and how to choose an analyst

Episode 5: Daryl Sharp ~ Oct. 15, 2015 ~ Personality Types: Jung’s Model of Typology

Episode 4: John P. Dourley, Ph.D. ~ Oct. 1, 2015 ~ The Illness That We Are: A Jungian Critique of Christianity

Episode 3: Frith Luton ~ Sept. 20, 2015 ~ Bees, Honey & the Hive: Circumambulating the Centre – A Jungian Exploration of the Symbolism & Psychology

Episode 2: J. Gary Sparks ~ Sept. 8, 2015 ~ At the Heart of Matter: Synchronicity & Jung’s Spiritual Testament

Episode 1: Daryl Sharp ~ Aug. 26, 2015 ~ The founding of Inner City Books, his relationship with Marie-Louise von Franz, and his first book, The Secret Raven: Conflict & Transformation in the Life of Franz Kafka