Episode 38: David Schoen

David E. Schoen, LCSW, MSSW, holds a master’s degree in clinical social work from the University of Texas at Austin and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts in North America.

He has a background as an alcohol and chemical dependency counselor, and as a clinical social worker. Now a senior analyst with the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts, he chairs their Ethics Committee, is cofounder and past coordinator of the New Orleans Jungian Seminar, and is currently an advisor to the C.G. Jung Society of Baton Rouge.

Mr. Schoen speaks nationally and internationally on various aspects of Jungian Psychology, and is a Louisiana Poet. His private practice, located in Covington, Louisiana, is centrally located between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

His first book, Divine Tempest: The Hurricane As a Psychic Phenomenon, published by Inner City Books in 1998, and his second book, The War of the Gods in Addiction: C.G. Jung, Alcoholics Anonymous and Archetypal Evil, published in 2009 by Spring Journal, were the subject of Episode 8 of this podcast when Mr. Schoen and I sat down together in 2015 at the Fall Conference of the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts here in Chicago.

His latest book, Always a Fighting Tiger: Memoirs of an Ordinary LSU Football Fan, was released in 2014 by Tate Publishing, and it is the subject of our talk today.

This interview was recorded on Tuesday, November 27, 2018. It is 1:03:50 long and 52 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser or download it directly to your computer. This episode is also available on iTunesStitcherGoogle Play, or wherever you get your shows.


“Jung said we should never identify with an archetype because it is so dangerous, it is so powerful.”

“To me there are two basic needs, psychologically. One is to be an individual, and the other is to belong. And these are sometimes directly in opposition. But being a sports fan, participation mystique plays into the part of belonging.”

“The lesser is always the jealous critic.”


Speaking of Jung: Episode 8 Mr. Schoen sat down with Laura in Chicago in 2015

Manresa House of Retreats Convent, Louisiana

LSU Football The Fighting Tigers

Speaking of Jung: Episode 6 Jungian analyst Dr. Mark Winborn sat down with Laura in Chicago in 2015 to discuss participation mystique

Shared Realities: Participation Mystique & Beyond Edited by Jungian analyst Mark Winborn, Ph.D.

Introduction: An Overview of Participation Mystique by Mark Winborn, Ph.D. {free .pdf download}

Tiger Stadium Baton Rouge, Louisiana

The Archetypes & the Collective Unconscious by C.G. Jung

All Things Bill Belichick Laura’s website, originally created in 2000

pyrrhic victory Definition at dictionary.com

Stories of Service: Steve Belichick Listen to former Navy football player Rear Admiral John Stufflebeem {U.S. Navy, Ret.} tell a story about losing to Army

What Is Jungian Analysis? Online article by David Schoen

The Path of Relationship: The Life & Work of Drs. Hal & Sidra Stone New book by Jungian analyst Dianne Braden


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The Interpretation of Dreams: Dreams as a Path to Personal Authority with Jungian analyst James Hollis, Ph.D.

This episode is dedicated to the memory of Marquise Hill {1982-2007}.
Here is a New York Times story on Marquise.