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Episode 154: Enrique Martínez Celaya + James Hollis

February 3, 2026 Laura London

ENRIQUE MARTÍNEZ CELAYA

Enrique Martínez Celaya is an artist, author, and former scientist whose work encompasses painting, sculpture, drawing, immersive environments, essays, poetry, and fiction. His practice examines the experience of the individual amid social, ethical, and existential conditions, and the capacity of art to widen perception and lend structure to meaning. These concerns take form through materials ranging from oil paint and bronze to tar, blood, and sugar, as he investigates the nature of art, memory, exile, and the legacies of history.

His work has been exhibited internationally and is held in more than sixty public collections, including the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Whitney Museum of American Art, The Museum of Fine Arts Houston, the Moderna Museet in Stockholm, The Huntington, and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. He has undertaken major projects and installations worldwide, including at the State Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg, The Phillips Collection in Washington, D.C., the Berliner Philharmonie in Berlin, and the Museo Nacional de Bellas Artes in Havana, and has participated in two-person exhibitions with historical figures such as Albert Pinkham Ryder, Käthe Kollwitz, and Diego Velázquez.

Martínez Celaya is the author of nine books on art, philosophy, and poetry, including two volumes of Collected Writings and Interviews published by the University of Nebraska Press. He recently completed his first novel and has co-authored Tending the Fire: Creativity, Purpose, and the Unfolding Self with the Jungian psychoanalyst James Hollis, as well as Pebbles: The Commonalities and Divergences of Art and Science with Nobel laureate chemist Roald Hoffmann and the philosopher and physicist Aleksandr P. Svitin (forthcoming). His work has been the subject of fourteen monographic publications, including Martínez Celaya SEA SKY LAND: Towards a Map of Everything, and Enrique Martínez Celaya and Käthe Kollwitz: Von den Ersten und den Letzten Dingen, both published by Hatje Cantz. (All of his books are linked below.)

He is the first Provost Professor of Humanities and Arts at the University of Southern California. His teaching integrates literature, philosophy, and art, reflecting a sustained commitment to education and inquiry across disciplines. In 2025, he received USC’s highest faculty honor, the Associates Award for Artistic Expression. He has also served as Roth Family Distinguished Visiting Scholar and Montgomery Fellow at Dartmouth College, as the second Presidential Professor in the history of the University of Nebraska, and as a tenured professor at Pomona College. In 2021, he was awarded a Doctor honoris causa by Otis College of Art and Design. He was the first Visual Arts Fellow at The Huntington Library, where his sculpture became the institution’s first contemporary acquisition in its century-long history.

He has been invited to speak at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Academy in Berlin, Stanford University, the Art Institute of Chicago, the Berlin Philharmonic, the Aspen Institute, the Royal Drawing School in London, and the Aspen Center for Physics. In 2020, he delivered the commencement address at Otis College of Art and Design. In 1998, he founded Whale & Star, an initiative integrating artistic mentorship, cultural engagement, and publishing in critical theory, art, and poetry. The initiative also established The Lecture Project, a forum bringing together leading writers and scholars to examine the ethical dimensions of art. His collaborations extend across disciplines, including a twenty-year partnership with the Canadian rock band Cowboy Junkies.

Martínez Celaya began his training as a painter’s apprentice at the age of twelve. At sixteen, he built a laser that received national recognition, and during his youth he published poems, essays, and short stories. He studied applied physics, literature, and art at Cornell University, where he worked at the Cornell High Energy Synchrotron Source. He went on to earn an M.S. and completed Ph.D. coursework in quantum electronics at the University of California, Berkeley, supported by a Regents Fellowship and Brookhaven National Laboratory. Before devoting himself fully to art, he received patents and authored scientific papers in laser physics and superconductivity. He later attended the Skowhegan School of Painting and Sculpture on an honorary scholarship and earned his M.F.A. from the University of California, Santa Barbara in 1994, where he received the department’s highest distinction and served as a Junior Fellow at the Interdisciplinary Humanities Center. After graduation, he joined Pomona College as a professor and, two years later, received the Young Talent Award from the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

(Text courtesy of Studio Enrique Martínez Celaya.)

JAMES HOLLIS

James Hollis, Ph.D. is a Jungian psychoanalyst, teacher, and author in Washington, D.C.

He holds a Ph.D. in literature and philosophy from Drew University and taught humanities and the philosophic traditions of cultures for over 25 years before training as a Jungian psychoanalyst at the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich where he graduated with a Diploma in Analytical Psychology in 1982.

Dr. Hollis is the co-founder and first director of training of the Philadelphia Jung Institute, worked as a senior training analyst for the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts, and from 1998-2008 served as executive director of the C.G. Jung Educational Center in Houston, Texas.

In 2014, he relocated to Washington, D.C. where he spent the next five years as executive director of the Jung Society of Washington, and now serves on its board of directors. He is also vice president emeritus of the Philemon Foundation and a former professor of Jungian Studies at Saybrook University.

Dr. Hollis continues to lecture online and to write. He is the author of 21 books, available in translations around the world. His titles are, in order: Harold Pinter, The Middle Passage, Under Saturn’s Shadow, Tracking the Gods, Swamplands of the Soul, The Eden Project, The Archetypal Imagination, Creating a Life, On This Journey We Call Our Life, Mythologems, Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life, Why Good People Do Bad Things, What Matters Most, Hauntings, Living an Examined Life, Living Between Worlds, Prisms, The Broken Mirror, A Life of Meaning, Living with Borrowed Dust, and his latest, Tending the Fire: Creativity, Purpose, and the Unfolding Self, co-authored with Enrique Martínez Celaya. (All of his books are linked below.)

He has joined us on eight previous episodes of Speaking of Jung, including our live, celebratory 100th episode. Please visit the James Hollis section of our website for a comprehensive look at his work including links to all of our previous episodes, his books, audiobooks, films, print interviews, and a series of online video courses – through the Jung Society of Washington – that you can start any time, complete at your own pace, and enjoy lifetime access to the material.

This video interview was recorded on Monday, February 2, 2026. It’s 01:06:50 long and 64.2 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser (click the play button in the bar below) or watch the video edition on YouTube.

📷 Photo credits: Enrique Martínez Celaya by Christopher Michel, 2020; James Hollis by Mike Blabac, 2024.

SHOW NOTES

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C.G. Jung Institute of Los Angeles

The Middle Passage: From Misery to Meaning in Midlife by James Hollis

Demian by Hermann Hesse

Harold Pinter: The Poetics of Silence by James Hollis (his first book)

Tracking the Gods: The Place of Myth in Modern Life by James Hollis

Tracking the Gods: The Movement of Archetypal Powers in Our Time Online video course with James Hollis

The Apple Tree A video by Studio Enrique Martínez Celaya, 2017-2023.

BOOKS

By Enrique Martínez Celaya

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Presents and Proofs – Recent Paintings and Works on Paper Meridian Gallery & Ro Snell Gallery, 1994

worksonpaperandsculptures Luigi Marrozzini Gallery, 1997

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Berlin – The Fragility of Nearness Stephen Cohen Gallery & William Griffin Editions, 1998

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Pictures of Mercy: Drafts of a Landscape Galeria Ramis Barquet, 2000

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The October Cycle, 2000-2002 Marquand Books, 2003

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Poetry in Process University of Colorado Press, 2004

Unbroken Poetry: The Work of Enrique Martínez Celaya Whale & Star Press, 2006

XX: Lyrics and Photographs of the Cowboy Junkies, with watercolors by Enrique Martínez Celaya Whale & Star Press, 2006

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Another Show for the Leopard Baldwin Gallery, 2007

Martínez Celaya: Early Work by Daniel A. Siedell, Whale & Star Press, 2007

Nomad Whale & Star Press, 2007

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Daybreak L.A. Louver, 2008

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The Palace The Baldwin Gallery, 2009

The Blog: Bad Time for Poetry Whale & Star Press, 2010

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The Nebraska Lectures, 2007-2010 University of Nebraska Press, 2010

The Wanderer: Foreign Landscapes of Enrique Martínez Celaya Museum of Biblical Art, 2010 ($20 on eBay)

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Collected Writings and Interviews, 1990-2010 University of Nebraska Press, 2010

Martínez Celaya: Selected Work/Obra Selecta 1992-2010 Gary Nader Fine Art, 2011

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The Pearl Radius Books, 2014

Martínez Celaya: Working Methods Ediciones Polígrafa, 2014

On Art and Mindfulness Whale & Star Press, 2015

Enrique Martínez Celaya, 1990-2015: A Monograph from the Studio Archive Radius Books, 2016

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The Mariner’s Meadow Blain Southern, 2019

Enrique Martínez Celaya: Collected Writings and Interviews, 2010-2017 University of Nebraska Press, 2020

Enrique Martinez Celaya & Kathe Kollwitz: Von den ersten und den letzten Dingen Hatje Cantz, 2021

Enrique Martínez Celaya: The Foreigner’s Song Miles McEnery Gallery, 2022

Martínez Celaya SEA SKY LAND: Towards a Map of Everything Edited by Susan M. Anderson and Diana Clarke, Hatje Cantz, 2022

Enrique Martínez Celaya and Robinson Jeffers: The Fire of Heaven Hatje Cantz, 2023

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By James Hollis, Ph.D.

A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity Sounds True, 2023

Creating a Life: Finding Your Individual Path Inner City Books, 2001

Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life: How to Finally, Really Grow Up Gotham Books, 2005

Harold Pinter: The Poetics of Silence Southern Illinois University Press, 1970

Hauntings: Dispelling the Ghosts Who Run Our Lives Chiron Publications, 2013

Living an Examined Life: Wisdom for the Second Half of the Journey Sounds True, 2018

Living Between Worlds: Finding Personal Resilience in Changing Times Sounds True, 2020

Living with Borrowed Dust: Reflections on Life, Love, & Other Grievances Sounds True, 2025

Mythologems: Incarnations of the Invisible World Inner City Books, 2004

On This Journey We Call Our Life: Living the Questions Inner City Books, 2003

Prisms: Reflections on This Journey We Call Life Chiron Publications, 2021

Swamplands of the Soul: New Life in Dismal Places Inner City Books, 1996

Tending the Fire: Creativity, Purpose, and the Unfolding Self (with Enrique Martínez Celaya) Chiron Publications, 2026

The Archetypal Imagination Texas A&M University Press, 2000 (free PDF)

The Broken Mirror: Refracted Visions of Ourselves Chiron Publications, 2022

The Eden Project: In Search of the Magical Other Inner City Books, 1998

The Middle Passage: From Misery to Meaning in Midlife Inner City Books, 1993

Tracking the Gods: The Place of Myth in Modern Life Inner City Books, 1995

Under Saturn’s Shadow: The Wounding and Healing of Men Inner City Books, 1994

What Matters Most: Living a More Considered Life Gotham Books, 2009

Why Good People Do Bad Things: Understanding Our Darker Selves Gotham Books, 2007

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