Episode 44: Map of the Soul – Persona

(NEW) Map of the Soul: Persona – Our Many Faces ~ The revised edition of this new book by Murray Stein, Ph.D. includes a transcription from this episode of Speaking of Jung.

Murray Stein, Ph.D. is an American Jungian analyst and author living and working in Zürich, Switzerland.

Dr. Stein holds a Master of Divinity from Yale University, a Diploma in Analytical Psychology (the degree of a Jungian analyst) from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich, and a Ph.D. in religion and psychological studies from the University of Chicago.

He was the founding member and first president of the Chicago Society of Jungian Analysts, a co-founder of the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts, and is an honorary member of the C.G. Jung Institute of Chicago.

Dr. Stein served as president of the International Association for Analytical Psychology from 2001 to 2004 and the International School of Analytical Psychology Zürich from 2008 to 2012. For over thirty years, he worked as editor and publisher at Chiron Publications, and is now a training and supervising analyst at the International School of Analytical Psychology in Zürich.

He is the author of many books and articles, including The Principle of Individuation: Toward the Development of Human Consciousness, Minding the Self: Jungian Meditations on Contemporary Spirituality, and, along with Dr. Thomas Arzt, is the editor of the 3-volume series, Jung’s Red Book for Our Time: Searching for Soul Under Postmodern Conditions, published by Chiron.

His book, Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction, first published in 1998, has become a #1 Best Seller due to its recognition by the K-Pop group BTS. Their new CD, titled Map of the Soul: Persona, was released on April 12th, and it is the subject of our talk today.

This interview was recorded on Sunday, April 14, 2019. It’s 55:55 long and 46.3 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser or download it directly to your computer. This episode is also available on iTunes (Apple Podcasts), StitcherGoogle Play, TuneIn, and Spotify.


Speaking of Jung, Ep. 42 Interview with Dr. Stein about his book, Jung’s Map of the Soul, recorded Mar. 23, 2019

doolset lyrics BTS lyrics in English

Map of the Soul: Persona New album by BTS

Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction by Murray Stein, Ph.D. (also available in Kindle and as an Audiobook)

Intro : Persona Official music video for Track 1

@jungianLaura Laura London on Twitter

The Red Book: Liber Novus by C.G. Jung

Boy With Luv (feat. Halsey) Official music video for Track 2

BTS World Tour “Love Yourself: Speak Yourself” Soldier Field, Chicago, May 11-12, 2019

Pauli & Jung: The Meeting of Two Great Minds by David Lindorff, Ph.D.

Dancing Between Heaven & Earth: Wolfgang Pauli’s Chinese Anima Figure Audio by Jungian analyst J. Gary Sparks

C.G. Jung: Letters, Vol. 1 Jung describes his dream on pp. 449-450 in a letter to Father Victor White dated 18 December 1946

The Monadology by Gottfried Leibniz

Collected Poems: Mark Strand

Outside Inside & All Around: And Other Essays in Jungian Psychology by Murray Stein, Ph.D.

Full Speech that RM of BTS Gave at the United Nations YouTube video

Remarks by BTS’ Kim Nam Jun (RM) at the Launch of Generation Unlimited at the UN General Assembly Transcript of speech

BTS World Tour “Love Yourself: Speak Yourself” Stade de France, Paris, June 7, 2019

Professor Lee Bu-Young em. Bou-Yong Rhi, MD, Ph.D. Founder of the C.G. Jung Institute of Korea

The C.G. Jung Institute of Korea

Fasnacht Switzerland

Carl Orff: Carmina Burana

BTS ARMY Help Centre on Twitter


Murray Stein’s website

Speaking of Jung, Ep. 9 Laura London visited Dr. Stein at his office in Zürich in 2015 to record this episode


The Analyst & the Rabbi A Play by Murray Stein & Henry Abramovitch

Jungian Scholar on BTS’ Soul-Searching Album The Korea Herald, May 28, 2019

Mapping The Soul with Dr. Murray Stein ARMY Magazine, May 24, 2019

“Interview of Murray Stein” by Jan Wiener, The Journal of Analytical Psychology, Vol. 64 Issue 3, June 2019 (subscription required)

The Profound Psychology Put in the Album of BTS: “Jung Heart Map” Translator, Analyzed by Mr. Ryohei Irie Real Sound (Japan), May 8, 2019

Quiz of the Week: Which Big Thinker Influenced K-Pop Chart-Toppers BTS? BBC News, Apr. 26, 2019

Jung Lovers: BTS Delve Into Psychology On Their Album, Map Of The Soul by Mark Savage, BBC News, Apr. 19, 2019

BTS Is On The 2019 TIME 100 List TIME Magazine, Apr. 17, 2019

Map of the Soul – Persona: Our Many Faces New book by Murray Stein, Ph.D.; published by Chiron Publications on Apr. 16, 2019

Reddit Thread Post by u/elbenne about this episode, Apr. 15, 2019

Twitter recap of this episode by @scarfff

Dr. Murray Stein’s Jungian Analysis of BTS’ ‘Map Of The Soul: Persona’ Gets So Deep by Jamie LeeLo, Elite Daily, Apr. 15, 2019