Episode 47: The Analyst and The Rabbi

“A meeting between C.G. Jung and Rabbi Leo Baeck took place in Zürich in October 1946 at the Savoy Hotel Baur en Ville. Very little is actually known about this meeting. There are no extant notes or reports from the principals indicating what was said or discussed. There was no secretary present taking minutes of the conversation. What is known from the few documents attesting to this meeting is that it took place at Jung’s request and that Baeck did not wish to meet with Jung. The play is an imaginative construction of what might have happened in this historic meeting of two great men.” –The Analyst and The Rabbi

Murray Stein holds a Ph.D. from Yale University and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich. Currently, he is a training and supervising analyst at the International School of Analytical Psychology in Zürich, Switzerland. He served as president of the International Association for Analytical Psychology from 2001 to 2004, and president of the International School of Analytical Psychology from 2008 to 2012. Dr. Stein is the author of many books and articles, including Jung’s Map of the Soul, In MidLife, and The Bible as Dream.

Henry Abramovitch holds a Ph.D. from Yale University and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the Israel Society of Analytical Psychology. Currently, he is professor emeritus in the Department of Medical Education at the Sackler School of Medicine at Tel Aviv University where he has been Director of Behavioral Science in the New York/American Program for over 30 years. He is founding president and a senior training analyst at the Israel Institute for Jungian Psychology and is the former president of the Israeli Anthropological Association, as well as co-facilitator of the Interfaith Encounter Association. Dr. Abramovitch supervises Routers in the International Association for Analytical Psychology’s Developing Groups in Poland, Serbia, and Moscow. He is the author of Brothers and Sisters: Myth and Reality, as well as two forthcoming books: Therapy as Performance Art (Routledge), and Why Odysseus Came Home as a Stranger and Other Puzzling Moments in the Life of Buddha, Socrates, Jesus, Abraham and Other Great Individuals (Chiron).

The Analyst and The Rabbi will be featured at this year’s IAAP Congress where it will be screened at the AudiMax hall at the University of Vienna on Wednesday, August 28, at 8:00 PM, followed by a panel discussion moderated by Jungian analyst Dr. Yehuda Abramovitch, M.D.

This interview was recorded on Wednesday, August 7, 2019. It’s 59:07 long and 54 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser or download it directly to your computer. This episode is also available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify, and now on iHeartRadio.


Stage performance, filmed by Luis Moris and his crew at the Foyer St. Anton in Zürich on Oct. 29, 2018, is available on DVD. The screenplay, along with extensive commentary by the writers and actors, is available in book format.

・Written by Murray Stein and Henry Abramovitch
・Executive Producer: Murray Stein
・Producer: Luis Moris
・C.G. Jung: Paul Brutsche, Ph.D., Jungian analyst
・Rabbi Baeck: John Hill, Jungian analyst
・“Woman”: Dariane Pictet, Jungian analyst
・Music performer: Barbara Miller, Jungian analyst
・Additional music by Vivaldi, Beethoven, Boccherini, Bach, and Ullmann

Amazon Hardcover, paperback, and Kindle
Chiron Publications DVD with or without paperback


This People Israel: The Meaning of Jewish Existence by Rabbi Leo Baeck

Martin Buber Amazon Author Page

School of Wisdom Founded by Count Hermann Keyserling

Eranos Foundation Founded by Olga Fröbe-Kapteyn

Book of Marriage: A New Interpretation By Twenty-Four Leaders of Contemporary Thought by Count Hermann Keyserling

W.R. Bion Amazon Author Page

Analytical Psychology in Exile The Correspondence of C.G. Jung & Erich Neumann

The Jung-Kirsch Letters The Correspondence of C.G. Jung & James Kirsch

Zentralblatt für Psychotherapie und ihre Grenzgebiete Contains the full text of Jung’s article “The State of Psychotherapy Today,” 1934

Civilization in Transition Collected Works of C.G. Jung, Vol. 10 {includes “The State of Psychotherapy Today,” par. 333-370}

Memories, Dreams, Reflections by C.G. Jung; Edited by Aniela Jaffé

Psychology & Religion: The Terry Lectures by C.G. Jung

The Complete Correspondence of Sigmund Freud & Karl Abraham 1907-1925

My Name Was Sabina Spielrein DVD Documentary

Dariane Pictet Jungian analyst

Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism by Gershom Scholem

From the Life & Work of C.G. Jung by Aniela Jaffé {includes the letter from Gershom Scholem to Aniela Jaffé}

Verdi: Requiem & Operatic Choruses by Giuseppe Verdi

Psychology Club Zürich Founded by C.G. Jung in 1916

Theresienstadt Music and the Holocaust

Barbara Helen Miller Jungian analyst


Additional episodes with Murray Stein: With Laura London in Zürich, Jung’s Map of the Soul, and BTS’s Map of the Soul: Persona

Illness in the Analyst by Henry Abramovitch {full text}

Kristin Ohmstede Fine Artisan Jewelry

Online Video Courses Presented by the Jung Society of Washington, D.C.

Laura London on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram

Murray Stein on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram

Special thanks to Chiron Publications